pugmaster
Labourers
When a good man goes to war, demons flee the field.
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Post by pugmaster on Jul 31, 2015 4:02:50 GMT
With that picture, I see 6 warhorses, but only 3 people in max tier gear. Perfectly reasonable.
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Post by Balanced Breakfast on Jul 31, 2015 4:17:40 GMT
Summary of the Shoutout Chat: It's a bad thing for multiple reasons, I shall explain them all. SO_RealmHawk: You have your reasons, I have mine. Please explain them in the thread though. pugmaster: Reason 1: It says this is a change to make the game less grindy. This isn't more far from the truth. By making you earn even less gold, and making all the gear even more expensive, people will just grind harder and harder. "The point of RP isn't to make lots of gold" that is probably the most untrue thing Ive heard! What do you want to do in life? Make money probably. You don't have dreams of becoming a fat rich bastard? Doesn't it just increase roleplay by.. letting us do that? It enhances your story as a tavernkeep, wanting adventure, finding it, then becoming a balls to the wall rich Lord! That is the story people want! Not to be stuck in a shell doing the same thing with no motive! Reason 2: If things are super expensive, it will be a race to endgame! Whoever gets to endgame first will just terrorize the commoners, and more likely then not, just RDM because they think they are untouchable. Because, well, they are. Reason 3: Servers like this are big signs saying "come put your dick in my ass" to trolls. There will be so many nakeds running around RDMing and doing other troll things it will be insane! Also, with the super low gold, and high prices... It will only encourage other players to RDM and take what little that person has! Among the trolls and players RDMing to get as much as possible, it will be nothing more than a huge clusterfuck of RDM and no one will want to play! So over all, this is bad because you can't live a life you want, you will be forced into a role of boring grinding your whole life. Whoever gets the best gear first will terrorize everyone and become untouchable and it will be a huge clusterfuck of RDMing players and trolls that is all. Lemme take the time to sum up my rebuttal.
1: Not everybody is as much of a greedy fat bastard as you. Believe it or not, some people actually RP for the sake of interesting and immersive storytelling and to further develop their writing and creative skills. 2: The point of making it super expensive is so that only higher-tier officials in clans and factions will have access to such equipment. Maybe it will become a race to endgame, but hey, didn't you say you liked racing to become the biggest fattest richest bastard of them all? 3:Yeah, maybe some people will try to RDM. But hey, looting is illegal on HCRP. Of course, you'd know that if you read the rules. But, even if they did knowingly break the looting rule, they'd just get banned on the spot. That's what admins are for, you know? But in summary, I'm sorry that we're not giving you what you want when you want it. I'm sorry that you're going to have to work hard to fulfill your sense of self-entitlement, but hey, this is Hard Core RP, right?
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daegontargaryen
Journeymen
Concentrated power isn't rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it- M.Friedman
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Post by daegontargaryen on Jul 31, 2015 5:07:47 GMT
1. If this server becomes like ToR where you make 20 gold per hour, I'm leaving because that's the road it's headed on. 2. Make things fucking affordable. No idea why you want to fucking liberalize everything. 3. High stockpiles are actually something I agree with. 4. If you want the server to have a name for itself, fucking reform your staff. One of your base admins just banned a kid for killing him for a legit reason and the other admins are like 12 years old. 5. Don't do the higher class thing with the bios... that's just asking for a low ass population. 6. The majority of the fucking server is poor already, I don't know why you want EVERYONE to be poor. 7. Add Glunmar and Commoner footman. 8. Money = RP. Fact and we've all seen it and we all see it all the time. 9. Human weaknesses contribute to the RP because WE RP AS HUMANS. 10. If you want RP, use any map that's not VoS or Nantes... Of course you feel this way, you spent hours exploiting the game and grinding like shit to get 100 mil
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johndead
Peasant
Lets shove that there, connect this ta that and sew that thing up, and you should live.
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Post by johndead on Jul 31, 2015 5:30:08 GMT
This is mostly why we need a wipe This is the same thing I was gonna try to post, but it didn't work for some reason. Anyways this thing needs to be addressed and I think that this reset will fix some problems, temporarily. Surely people will be pissed off when they work hard for the gear they get and get RDM'd by an Outlaw, so this needs to be dealt with as well as the poor economy. Umm you guys realize these were the only six people of forty something on the server at the time armored like this right? everyone else looked just like the fellow in the foreground right?
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Post by blackfyre on Jul 31, 2015 6:45:15 GMT
I've been on servers where everything is super expensive, and you get almost no gold. They are not fun. Always full of trolls and the server is dominated by whoever gets to endgame first. It's usually one guild with the best gear, who terrorizes the entire server, while trolls run around and people constantly RDM to steal what little other players have. Uhh well I can say no that will not happen as the ones such as myself set up in higher positions are not utter apathetic assholes like in most circumstances. Trust me I know what you mean it happened in ToR and was nonsense no one else had fun when these guys ran around swinging their dicks in everyone's face... well maybe some people liked that. Anyways The Watch is here to see everyone gets punished equally and no single one psycho has the final say to just CK whoever he wants whenever. Also anyone who wants to speak out against for corrupt actions that has been dealt with I set the cap at 10 and screen the members to make sure they aren't 11 year old hotheads, and can actually rp.
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Post by blackfyre on Jul 31, 2015 6:46:49 GMT
I've been on servers where everything is super expensive, and you get almost no gold. They are not fun. Always full of trolls and the server is dominated by whoever gets to endgame first. It's usually one guild with the best gear, who terrorizes the entire server, while trolls run around and people constantly RDM to steal what little other players have. Uhh well I can say no that will not happen as the ones such as myself set up in higher positions are not utter apathetic assholes like in most circumstances. Trust me I know what you mean it happened in ToR and was nonsense no one else had fun when these guys ran around swinging their dicks in everyone's face... well maybe some people liked that. Anyways The Watch is here to see everyone gets punished equally and no single one psycho has the final say to just CK whoever he wants whenever. Also anyone who wants to speak out against us for corrupt actions that has been dealt with I set the cap at 10 and screen the members to make sure they aren't 11 year old hotheads, and can actually rp.
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Post by SO_RealmHawk on Jul 31, 2015 7:46:30 GMT
The point is to discourage their mindless grinding and to use their minds, making money easier by interacting with players. No I don't have dreams to be a fat rich bastard and if I did, I would feel fulfilled and "done" with my life. Getting super rich ends the rp, you begin to have no incentive to do anything because everything in the world is run by money and backed by reason. Reason 3: Hahaha this really makes me laugh. Trolls such as these will be perma banned on the spot without remorse. For the most of this, I feel like you don't see the big picture. I'm not making it a grind fest, but overall increasing the meaning of gold and making gear more valuable. I'm really tired and it's 3:46 am so yeah...
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Post by crazed on Jul 31, 2015 13:31:19 GMT
This is mostly why we need a wipe That is not because people have a lot of money, it's because fuckboi admins always give out free hand outs. I've seen it and I'm sure other people would agree.
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Post by crazed on Jul 31, 2015 13:33:41 GMT
1. If this server becomes like ToR where you make 20 gold per hour, I'm leaving because that's the road it's headed on. 2. Make things fucking affordable. No idea why you want to fucking liberalize everything. 3. High stockpiles are actually something I agree with. 4. If you want the server to have a name for itself, fucking reform your staff. One of your base admins just banned a kid for killing him for a legit reason and the other admins are like 12 years old. 5. Don't do the higher class thing with the bios... that's just asking for a low ass population. 6. The majority of the fucking server is poor already, I don't know why you want EVERYONE to be poor. 7. Add Glunmar and Commoner footman. 8. Money = RP. Fact and we've all seen it and we all see it all the time. 9. Human weaknesses contribute to the RP because WE RP AS HUMANS. 10. If you want RP, use any map that's not VoS or Nantes... Of course you feel this way, you spent hours exploiting the game and grinding like shit to get 100 mil If you actually labored like other people for an hour or two you'd feel the same way. People bitch about how they are always broke and shit. Those are the people that: A. Trick admins into giving them money. B. Having the admins spawn shit for them C. They always blow it on some bullshit tin-can armor they don't need D. We lost 10% of our fucking money per death.
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Post by Balanced Breakfast on Jul 31, 2015 13:50:24 GMT
This is mostly why we need a wipe That is not because people have a lot of money, it's because fuckboi admins always give out free hand outs. I've seen it and I'm sure other people would agree. i never gave out any plate armor. it was made very clear to me and the other admins not to give out heavy-ass armor. i think they made an exception to chase for some reason, but i have no idea why duckie has plate
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Post by andrei on Jul 31, 2015 13:51:34 GMT
I voted yes because I need to have an even play field when I start playing this seriously.
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Post by crazed on Jul 31, 2015 13:52:01 GMT
Eh Simon I think you're a rather decent admin, but you could get a little trolly from time to time. I am not necessarily pointing any admin out, I'm just saying I've seen admins give large amounts of money to people for like... no reason at all. I know the other day when I was being refunded for something one admin (not gonna be a tattle tail) gave me like 15k extra for like no reason at all. That can't happen.
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Post by cedric on Jul 31, 2015 14:51:33 GMT
If you want to play Feudal World go ahead, but I don't want a poor society where there is no combat. And the only thing we do is run around Glunmar with 200 Gold roleplaying our poorness. While the Bios and Admin walk by in Plate spitting at us...
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Post by cedric on Jul 31, 2015 14:52:25 GMT
Umm you guys realize these were the only six people of forty something on the server at the time armored like this right? everyone else looked just like the fellow in the foreground right? We mined and worked at least 4 days for all that gear...
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daegontargaryen
Journeymen
Concentrated power isn't rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it- M.Friedman
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Post by daegontargaryen on Jul 31, 2015 15:56:31 GMT
Of course you feel this way, you spent hours exploiting the game and grinding like shit to get 100 mil If you actually labored like other people for an hour or two you'd feel the same way. People bitch about how they are always broke and shit. Those are the people that: A. Trick admins into giving them money. B. Having the admins spawn shit for them C. They always blow it on some bullshit tin-can armor they don't need D. We lost 10% of our fucking money per death. Grinding to get 100 mil isn't rping. You just wanted to be super rich and powerful while everyone else is actually out rping. I made a decent living as a mercenary making money from Brackaltwald and contracts. I made comfortable money and hovered around 100k at the end and pretty much stayed there for the entire last day. I didn't go grind out as a serf when my character is a fighter like you did. If your'e a warrior, do warrior things to get your money, if your'e a serf do labor to get your money, otherwise your'e not rping.
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