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Post by SO_RealmHawk on Jul 31, 2015 22:09:45 GMT
Money dropping auto-ban: Talked to Scripter and he has fixed it
Spawning with no money in the beginning: Will be fixing this as well.
Why did some people not get reset: My scripter told me after he reset that the players had to be off the server for it to work
What I will do from here: At nine o' clock I will discuss problems with the scripter, fix the spawn money--may or may not require a full money reset.
Please bare with me people, Of course I did not know this would happen. This is not what I had planned and I'm sorry for those who have intelligently made their money since I tried the full reset if we have to fully reset money again. If you can just bare through this, I promise from then on we will have a working economy, only characters with accepted bios with advanced classes, money that has more worth, and a return to the norm. If you guys feel you can't get through this, just message me and I will shut down the server for good. It's one thing to be disappointed by uncontrollable problems with something you enjoy playing, it's another to take extreme amounts of time out of your day and summer to help around 50 people who seem to hate you only for trying and watch it all get messed up by some things you don't entirely understand yourself. I have worked very hard to make this even come close to achieving what many of us have even dreamed of since the beginning. I'd hate to see all go to waste because of some small script error. Let's do our best to get through this.
Here are some reasons I would shut down the server: RealmHawk: This is a small mod of a not so popular game with super complex rules and means of administration where the 60 max amount of people who get on don't appreciate the 200 hours I have wasted on this thing since the beginning of the server. Almost every admin I carefully accept the players seem to hate. I'm not making any money off of this and I could have already learned two programming languages with the amount of time I've invested. Most of the players are not that concerned with the roleplay and are only playing the game to make money and look down on everyone else despite us clearly pointing out how wrong that is. The playerbase is horribly inflexible. Craze won't stop shitting on me and my hard decisions. Sometimes I don't have time to admin and I've only got to rp for 30 mins on my server since it has gotten popular. The server will likely break the minute I take my eye off of it. The players refuse to work together and to figure out anything on their own. I just ate 4 cookies from the insane amount of stress I just accumualted from the mess up. I have lost weight in benching, Time I was admining I should have been using to work out. My brother and mom look down on me saying that I'm wasting my time and tell me constantly that they could care less about the amount of work I put into it besides the fact that I did and how stupid it was too. RealmHawk: There's much more than that....I just don't think even writing that much more is worth the time. Even though he is hated by everybody now and he did some dumb things, I miss Gankiest. He tried his hardest to help and he definitely has some major flaws, but he is human like the rest of us and we excluded it entirely from our existence...an almost inhumane act that could drive anyone crazy and confused. Don't get me wrong, he still deserved what came to him, but it's so depressing that I no longer talk to someone because of a game. Although he refused to apologize, I still somewhat feel empty inside that a friendship can be broken so quick and that I will never see some of the people I talk to over the internet that I have worked with and have supported me for quite some time. Again though, the things Gankiest said and done are almost unforgivable.
If you guys can't work with me on this, I'm afraid I can no longer go on with the server.
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Post by blackfyre on Jul 31, 2015 23:01:46 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Please try to stick in there Realm, also what I told you about a mod change if you can make it that far I think it will help get away from the toxic PW community. HCRP is a million times better over all, when all the trolls, rdmers, and fail rpers who refuse to change are weeded out it's so much more nice. Just to be able to walk around without some massive turd on a giant charger telling you to drop a shit load of gold then killing you anyways.
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Post by sipeone on Jul 31, 2015 23:18:32 GMT
The only people that should be having problems with the resetting are people that are too lazy to write bios. I hope you can keep in there my heart goes out to you!
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Vyniran
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Post by Vyniran on Jul 31, 2015 23:28:44 GMT
Yeah RealmHawk don't let these salty trolls get to you.
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Post by Turducken on Jul 31, 2015 23:34:06 GMT
I'm willing to put all the time I can to help out. Remember, quantity < quality, so we can just get rid of the toxic by moving to a new mod. People who really care about the story that unfolds before their eyes in the delicate art of roleplay will cone right with us!
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Post by Balanced Breakfast on Jul 31, 2015 23:51:22 GMT
In the end, you should do what you think is right, man. If you wanna shut the server down to focus more on your family and your gains, I'll understand and help close this up. If you wanna continue, then I'll try and do what I can to maintain this server.
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daegontargaryen
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Post by daegontargaryen on Aug 1, 2015 0:44:35 GMT
Please don't end this, I myself have put alot of time into developing a clan/ faction as well as my character, as well as many others. Let me know if I can help out.
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Post by xankas on Aug 1, 2015 9:47:42 GMT
I wouldnt blame you for ending the server, as much as i enjoy it, the admins arent very good and it seems like they all favor certain people. So RDM is disguised and nothing is solved, people are shitty and you shouldnt devote your time to them when they break everything you set up on purpose
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Post by nemko on Aug 1, 2015 10:03:49 GMT
I wouldnt blame you for ending the server, as much as i enjoy it, the admins arent very good and it seems like they all favor certain people. So RDM is disguised and nothing is solved, people are shitty and you shouldnt devote your time to them when they break everything you set up on purpose That being said,we need more admins. Good one. Not saying that we have shitty admins right now,We have good admins. Just that we need more of them. Also,Community manager would really help you out with something in particual Realm: Community manager jog would be to..well,spot the bad boys and kidda,"Ban" them from being added to the server team, and also,to spot the good guys that we need on the server for setting up rp annnnnd to,maybe,add them on the server team as Admin OR modo`s, Modo`s that can kick or ban but doesnt really need the admin tools such as spawning items and that kind of stuff. That`s what I think,not blaming your job at all of the server statue since you do,and i`m being honest on that, REALLY do good job even with shitty members who doesnt care about the server exept their own person. ::Khem Nemko:: (I am and always,sorry for my english peeps,trying my best to be part of this wonderful community even with my super great english ,Thank you for trying to understand meh.)
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johncorosi
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Post by johncorosi on Aug 1, 2015 12:53:38 GMT
I would seriously suggest a mod change, that way people who aren't looking to rp and are from servers like oasis actually have to LOOK for the server. It would also open up other opportunities for new scripts, maps, factions, gear, and etc. Right now everyone is just upset about the wipe. Let everyone calm down and they will most likely come back, and to address the admin system either get a better screening system for admins or start making it to where there are more admins. I'd suggest looking at the server to find good RPers and offering them a spot in the staff, as a player moderator or an admin. I've been looking for a good RP server for atleast a year or two ever since NA_Nexus changed to Nantes and it became an rdm fest. Sure, it might be harder to make money but i easily made 15k by crafting items for around 30 minutes. Also, the people who stop playing now are the people who don't want to rp and just be a dominating factor on the server. Whenever I am on, I may be heavily armoured but I always try to avoid conflict and try to keep the server straight if and when admins aren't on. So give it a chance and some time Realm, try being a bit more strict to really weed out the rule breakers and don't let trolls get to you. I have around a dozen guys who like playing on the server and always RP. I also know dealing with a larger server can be very stressful and hard to manage.
Hang in there, Vitanian Corosi
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Post by crazed on Aug 1, 2015 14:15:38 GMT
I would seriously suggest a mod change, that way people who aren't looking to rp and are from servers like oasis actually have to LOOK for the server. It would also open up other opportunities for new scripts, maps, factions, gear, and etc. Right now everyone is just upset about the wipe. Let everyone calm down and they will most likely come back, and to address the admin system either get a better screening system for admins or start making it to where there are more admins. I'd suggest looking at the server to find good RPers and offering them a spot in the staff, as a player moderator or an admin. I've been looking for a good RP server for atleast a year or two ever since NA_Nexus changed to Nantes and it became an rdm fest. Sure, it might be harder to make money but i easily made 15k by crafting items for around 30 minutes. Also, the people who stop playing now are the people who don't want to rp and just be a dominating factor on the server. Whenever I am on, I may be heavily armoured but I always try to avoid conflict and try to keep the server straight if and when admins aren't on. So give it a chance and some time Realm, try being a bit more strict to really weed out the rule breakers and don't let trolls get to you. I have around a dozen guys who like playing on the server and always RP. I also know dealing with a larger server can be very stressful and hard to manage. Hang in there, Vitanian Corosi Well that's just it. There aren't really any more mods such as PW, PF, PE, etc. that have the RP factor established. RO created an entire mod for their server and everything else, and it was going well until someone completely fucked them up. Plus, if we move from PW we will most likely lose players that don't want to RP and this will just be the same deal with any other mod. (P.S Even Vulpe devotes this economy...) So yeah, I think we should FIX ourselves before we take any extreme action that may or may not work.
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Post by blackfyre on Aug 1, 2015 18:30:47 GMT
I would seriously suggest a mod change, that way people who aren't looking to rp and are from servers like oasis actually have to LOOK for the server. It would also open up other opportunities for new scripts, maps, factions, gear, and etc. Right now everyone is just upset about the wipe. Let everyone calm down and they will most likely come back, and to address the admin system either get a better screening system for admins or start making it to where there are more admins. I'd suggest looking at the server to find good RPers and offering them a spot in the staff, as a player moderator or an admin. I've been looking for a good RP server for atleast a year or two ever since NA_Nexus changed to Nantes and it became an rdm fest. Sure, it might be harder to make money but i easily made 15k by crafting items for around 30 minutes. Also, the people who stop playing now are the people who don't want to rp and just be a dominating factor on the server. Whenever I am on, I may be heavily armoured but I always try to avoid conflict and try to keep the server straight if and when admins aren't on. So give it a chance and some time Realm, try being a bit more strict to really weed out the rule breakers and don't let trolls get to you. I have around a dozen guys who like playing on the server and always RP. I also know dealing with a larger server can be very stressful and hard to manage. Hang in there, Vitanian Corosi Well that's just it. There aren't really any more mods such as PW, PF, PE, etc. that have the RP factor established. RO created an entire mod for their server and everything else, and it was going well until someone completely fucked them up. Plus, if we move from PW we will most likely lose players that don't want to RP and this will just be the same deal with any other mod. (P.S Even Vulpe devotes this economy...) So yeah, I think we should FIX ourselves before we take any extreme action that may or may not work. Well of course I didn't mean to come off as wanting a change RIGHT away. Once we have things set up better here and more of the bad roots are yanked out for good then we can eventually move on. Not to mention I hear a fair number are leaving or some new PW server so hopefully that leaves the ones bitten by the RP bug behind, and who knows bring back some others who realize how shit PW really is
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Post by lavulpe on Aug 1, 2015 20:27:32 GMT
Even Vulpe downvotes this economy...
I would prefer you don't put words in my mouth. I enjoy the rough economic style, this map is just not designed for it at all. Honestly the redeeming feature of this map is New Zendar is an "alright" city. Sadly only 3 parts of the city are actually useful for anything other than just standing around and only one of those ever have people there, and that is from the force of habit of a bank usually occupying the spot. The hard economic style would be amazing on a map with spaced out resources in very limited supply, as it slows the RP. Having a money over time system helps with that as well as it controls how much people can realistically make. HOWEVER unlike what has happened here, the entire economic system needs to be up for it to work, this is trying to run using 2 toes of how it should be, and the rest junk.
That being said, I am trying to contact Bassindale to let us switch to PA for the added gear and RP options. We need to get a mod change done ASAP to find out who is serious about this and who is just here because they already have the mod.
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Post by blackfyre on Aug 1, 2015 22:23:52 GMT
Even Vulpe downvotes this economy... I would prefer you don't put words in my mouth. I enjoy the rough economic style, this map is just not designed for it at all. Honestly the redeeming feature of this map is New Zendar is an "alright" city. Sadly only 3 parts of the city are actually useful for anything other than just standing around and only one of those ever have people there, and that is from the force of habit of a bank usually occupying the spot. The hard economic style would be amazing on a map with spaced out resources in very limited supply, as it slows the RP. Having a money over time system helps with that as well as it controls how much people can realistically make. HOWEVER unlike what has happened here, the entire economic system needs to be up for it to work, this is trying to run using 2 toes of how it should be, and the rest junk. That being said, I am trying to contact Bassindale to let us switch to PA for the added gear and RP options. We need to get a mod change done ASAP to find out who is serious about this and who is just here because they already have the mod. alright Felix awesome, just get off Dota already and come back to us!
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daegontargaryen
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Post by daegontargaryen on Aug 6, 2015 4:57:26 GMT
Let me know if you need me to approve bios, people are getting restless of waiting approval/ revision
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